Discussion:
Ygraine lies about wealth. Is she lying about Billy too?
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Ron Mershon
2003-07-30 03:23:25 UTC
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***@aol.com (JavaZombie) wrote in message news:<***@mb-m01.aol.com>...

*feeble attempt at damage control snipped*

As a "Priest" and "Master" of Nepotism/Gotham Grotto, Mr. Gidney
is/was an official media representative of Peter H. Gilmore's sham
"Church of Satan", which means that Gilmore (who knows him quite well)
believes/believed him to be an exemplary Satanist. So, either Gidney
was able to hide his pedophile desires from Gilmore, in which case
Gilmore does not have the perceptive ability which should be a
definite aspect of being a "Satanic High Priest", or else Gilmore knew
all about it. I suspect the latter, given Gilmore's previous
associations with similar people. (Anyone else remember those full
page ads in Gilmore's _The Black Flame_ for the "book" _Siege!_,
written by James Mason, who has done time in Colorado for statutory
rape?)

In any event, Gidney's actions *do* reflect on the CoS in general, in
much the same way as the recent cases against pedophile Catholic
priest do on their organization. In addition, the CoS, which has
repeatedly slandered any non-CoS Satanist who begins to make headway
(often bringing up supposed indescretions in the said individuals
personal lives), certainly deserves no mercy in this matter. Looks
like payback time to me.

Hail Satan!

RM

http://orderofshaitan.zapto.org
JavaZombie
2003-07-30 04:08:15 UTC
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How does a single person such as William putting on a facade to the world
compaire to that of a Church of Satan representative? People only know what you
let them know: point blank! There is no way of getting around that. Magus Peter
Gilmore could only judge his persona and character by what Will let HP Gilmore
see himself.

His actions go against everything Anton LaVey has layed out for us in The
Satanic Bible as his behavor was and is un-Satanic, and does not belong with
the Alien Elite that is the Church of Satan.

William is were he belongs.

I can not officialy speak for the Church of Satan but the Church of Satan
expects all of its members to abide by the law and are by no means "baby
sitters" for its members. Each member is responsible for their own actions,
seperate from the Church of Satan.

Hail Peter Gilmore!
Hail the Church of Satan!
Angelus Ultrix
2003-07-30 04:29:01 UTC
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<< How does a single person such as William putting on a facade to the world
compaire to that of a Church of Satan representative? People only know what you
let them know: point blank! There is no way of getting around that. Magus Peter
Gilmore could only judge his persona and character by what Will let HP Gilmore
see himself. >>

I don't suppose the fact that Gilmore's predecessor and mentor throwing Gidney
out in the first place could have, perhaps, served as something of a "red
flag." (Calm down, Tani, we're not talking about that kind of "red flag")



<< His actions go against everything Anton LaVey has layed out for us in The
Satanic Bible as his behavor was and is un-Satanic, and does not belong with
the Alien Elite that is the Church of Satan. >>

Alien Elite? Funny, I haven't really seen much of that in my perusing your
world. But, naturally, as an outsider, I am sure I am missing all of the secret
occult wisdom that has made you all powerful in politics, entertainment, media
and finance.

<< William is were he belongs. >>

I don't think Florida really deserves him. They have enough problems as it is.
Wouldn't you agree that Hell is where he belongs? He is, after all, a
Satanist..."Born, not made," right?


<< I can not officialy speak for the Church of Satan>>

Sounds like you're about to....

<< but the Church of Satan
expects all of its members to abide by the law and are by no means "baby
sitters" for its members. Each member is responsible for their own actions,
seperate from the Church of Satan. >>

I was right.

How convenient. Why don't you apply that same lolmore!
Hail the Church of Satan >>

Someone else was fond of writing that. William Gidney.
People's Commissar
2003-07-30 21:10:08 UTC
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Lame defense. Ron is right (did I just say that? Yeah, I did).

Gilmore DID know William Gidney, personally.

What did I know about these people - tho I never knew them personally?
Well, I said it enough times on here.

She's a doormat, a woman that tolerates shitty sex and abusive men.
DO NOT TRUST HER JUDGEMENT.

HE is an unman that makes toilet bowls out of women's faces. DO NOT
TRUST HIM, he has chakra blocks.

Schlesinger is a bully - tho it took no amount of intuition to savvy
that one.

And so forth.

No matter how you try to defend this, the point is moot. Ygraine was
wont to give "advice" to so many people, like Big Momma. Always
trying to be "the reasonable one." Yet her own lack of logic in
governing her life is telling. Where is responsibility to the self?
She lived with a freak for 11 years I see on here? And before that,
by her own words - a man who beat her up? Come on.

It's all more satan poo. You know - SATAN this SATAN that.

Try understanding the SAT and TAN principles. That's about the
darkness and then about the flame within. Most people into Satan
don't have a flame, or their flames are almost gone. And THAT IS what
SR has against that org. That, and that ALONE. They are murderers of
the flame. In the occult sense, that is worse than murder of a person.
I don't expect anyone who doesn't feel what I'm talking about to
understand a word of this. No need to say BOO to me about it.

Ygraine is a pretty woman, she's also quite smart. But she's pent up
and as such, has no logic and no intuition. Not even trying to find a
way OUT of this repeating circle - she might even disdain the DDOCS
which would tell her HOW to fix herself - if it's even possible
anymore.

Is this shit for real? I mean, all this in these posts?

If I remember right (time does fly) - last year the Borgs were making
some kind of Nazi music or whatever. Auschwitz mock outs. Nagy and
Anthony and so many other Mags in that organization were giving "I
love Hitler" interviews for the news (pictures in the newspapers,
quoting them saying such rubbish). They were all close "friends." Uh
huh.

Khkhkhkh ptewey. (Compliments of 790).

See inside.
Post by JavaZombie
How does a single person such as William putting on a facade to the world
Lavey liked putting on facades to the world and wrote about how to go
about doing that. And so he gets what in his org? Um...
Post by JavaZombie
compaire to that of a Church of Satan representative? People only know what you
let them know: point blank!
You are not a Magician. You are not a Magickian, either. You mean to
say, William DUPED the RUBE org known collectively as the CoS? OH!
You are so wrong. People do not just know about you from what you
tell them "point blank" unless they are intuitively dead. Intuitively
dead people shouldn't claim to be "Magus." Magus implies Magic or
Magick. Perhaps if the title of the H - wait, high what? PRIEST?
Perhaps if it was Director it wouldn't be so funny.

There is no way of getting around that. Magus Peter
Post by JavaZombie
Gilmore could only judge his persona and character by what Will let HP Gilmore
see himself.
Oh, that's bullshit. Is Gilmore bereft of intuition? Guess so. And
if you claim he is NOT bereft of intuition, then he knew about it and
tolerated it. One or the other, bub.
Post by JavaZombie
His actions go against everything Anton LaVey has layed out for us in The
Satanic Bible as his behavor was and is un-Satanic, and does not belong with
the Alien Elite that is the Church of Satan.
William is were he belongs.
I can not officialy speak for the Church of Satan but the Church of Satan
expects all of its members to abide by the law and are by no means "baby
sitters" for its members. Each member is responsible for their own actions,
seperate from the Church of Satan.
HA - I've heard that line before. Uh huh.
Post by JavaZombie
Hail Peter Gilmore!
Hail the Church of Satan!
Khkhkh ptewey.
People's Commissar
2003-07-31 02:20:53 UTC
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Sure, clear it up. See inside.
OKAY LET'S CLEAR THIS UP...
<< If I remember right (time does fly)
Qualifyer. Maybe it was 2 years ago? Shows ya how much attention I
paid to the details of the nothingness.

- last year the Borgs were making
some kind of Nazi music or whatever. Auschwitz mock outs. Nagy and
Anthony and so many other Mags in that organization were giving "I
love Hitler" interviews for the news (pictures in the newspapers,
quoting them saying such rubbish). They were all close "friends." Uh
huh. >>
Firstly, Ms. Jantsang, if you are referring to me in your reference to
Nah, don't bother. The news clipping shows Nagy in all his "glory"
loving Hitler. Sue the newspaper.
1) I am not affiliated with the Church of Satan. I am no longer a member, a
Priest, or a representative. I quit last year. I have nothing to do with the
Church of Satan and they have nothing to do with me.
That's nice.

You may want to look at
old Ebay listings: my selling of numerous CoS artifacts should indicate the
seriousness of my intent when I left.
Nah, I'll pass.
2) I was never a "Mag." I never held any office other than Priest, Grotto
Master, and later, Grotto Administrator.
3) I never gave any interview stating that "I loved Hitler." I have never
appeared in any newspaper and have never been quoted as saying anything about
Hitler.
Nagy did. You just got lumped in with the rest of them.


But, since you seem so insistent on getting a Hitler quote, here's
"I don't really care about Hitler." How's that?
That's nice. True, I lumped you in with the rest of them. But, so
did others.
4) William Gidney was never a "friend" of mine. I never liked him, never met
him, and never knew him. What little I did know of him I didn't like. In fact,
Mr. Gidney and some of his fellow Priests recently spoke of me in exceedingly
unfriendly terms on Lestat Ventrue's "Letters to the Devil" message board. I
was accused of, being, among other things, an asshole and someone "talking out
of the side of their mouth." I only know this because there are still some CoS
people who seem to feel I should know about this. As far as I am concerned,
William Gidney should have never been allowed back into the organization, but
that is neither here nor there, because I am not affiliated with these people.
I have been banned from their message boards. I don't buy their books,
magazines or records. I turned over the entire "Sweethearts of Swank" thing to
someone else.
I have no idea what Sweethearts of Swank" is. Not a clue.
William Gidney was no friend of mine, nor was he an acquaintance. He didn't
like me and I never liked him. I had nothing to do with his re-admission into
the Church or his promotion to the third degree.
I am not a representative of any Satanic group, nor am I affiliated with any
Satanic group. Not the Temple of Set, not the Order of Satanic Yahoos, not the
Infernal Temple of Diabolical Mayhem.
And I never will be again.
Ah, you have come to understand what we mean by SATAN POO. Good. SR
is not a satanic group. It is Sat/Tan - which is quite something
else. :)

Have a nice day. Sorry I lumped you in with the rest - but it was
kinda commonly accepted maybe MORE than 1 year ago. 2? 3? Something
like that.
K.S. Anthony
Ron Mershon
2003-07-31 02:53:18 UTC
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Post by People's Commissar
Ygraine is a pretty woman, she's also quite smart.
Indeed she is, but I'm sure Hillbilly Gidney never noticed. Guys like
him marry "older women" for one reason: to get at their kids.

RM

http://orderofshaitan.zapto.org
Lisa
2003-08-01 05:25:12 UTC
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<< Ygraine is a pretty woman, she's also quite smart.>>

<,Indeed she is, but I'm sure Hillbilly Gidney never noticed. Guys like him
marry "older women" for one reason: to get at their kids.>>

Someone like you, Mershon, who has went on the record regarding your preference
for very young girls, would do well to eschew such remarks; they do not sit
well when your history in such matters is taken into account.
Ron Mershon
2003-07-31 02:57:25 UTC
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1) I am not affiliated with the Church of Satan. I am no longer a member, a
Priest, or a representative. I quit last year. I have nothing to do with the
Church of Satan and they have nothing to do with me. You may want to look at
old Ebay listings: my selling of numerous CoS artifacts should indicate the
seriousness of my intent when I left.
Good for you. "You have just taken your first step into a far larger world."
- Obi Wan Kenobi

RM

http://orderofshaitan.zapto.org
Angelus Ultrix
2003-07-30 04:12:01 UTC
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By that logic, Java, one might also pose these unpleasant questions...and come
up with the same answers you have so kindly provided us...

Do you suggest then by your post that "Billy" should bear no responsibility?
That instead, Ygraine should--because she was, by your own admittance....

"the MASTERMIND behind EVERYTHING Will ever tried to accomplish?"

Does that include felonies as well? Or just unlistenable "music projects?"

Who protected "Billy" from the consequences of his own actions? Yes, yes, I
know...she was being "loyal." Or, more classically, "she didn't know what was
going on."

Who stood by while "Billy" made an ass of himself on television advocating
human sacrifice? Or when he made himself out to be some tough biker? Or an
ex-nazi? Or when he got thrown out of the Church of Satan by Anton Szandor
LaVey? Or when he was expelled from the Temple of Set?

Did you forget those things ever happened?

Who championed this weakling for the last ten years and made excuses for all of
his personal shortcomings?


If Billy was so lacking in character and backbone, Java, why did The High
Priest not only allow him back into the Church of Satan, but immediately
PROMOTE him from less-than-zero to Priest? Surely the CoS must've had some idea
that Mr. Gidney was bad news...after all, he was expelled by the Church's
founder, was he not?

Or was an exception made for some odd rea$on?

The "Priesthood" is, after all, the "cream of the crop," correct? How many
other baby-rapists wear the collar of Mendes? Your "Priesthood" has also
included "artists" who ram bottles into their ass and drink urine, correct? Is
"cream of the crop" meant to be taken somewhat literally? I hope you'll pardon
my dance with vulgarity.

So do other Church of Satan members or Priests partake in this type of thing? I
know: your "bible" specifically condemns it. Of course it does. That certainly
didn't stop little Billy's little Willy from naughtiness and playing silly, now
did it? After all, "might is right," yes? Oh, don't tell me you haven't the
stomach for your glorification of violence now....

Aren't you the same people whose members or close friends publish the convicted
felon Peter Sotos, whose main fetishizing is about raping children? Hmmmm...the
publishers of the last few LaVey books also published "Apocalypse Culture II"
which contains glossy, full-color images of various types of child pornography,
albeit in the guise of "art."

Why, if the "aeonic word" (www.churchofsatan.com) is "Justice," aren't the
Hierarchy of the Church of Satan taking responsibility for their own, shall we
say...poor judgment...in allowing a baby rapist into their folds with open
arms? How much does it cost to buy a Priesthood? Oh, I forgot...Priests are
recognized by their "work in the outside world." Riiiiigggghhhhhttttttt. "If
you have to ask, you ain't."

So. Did they know? Maybe the FBI should take a long look at the membership
rosters and compare them against local lists of known sex offenders and felons.
Maybe the New York office deserves a call. After all, he did cross state
lines...

So, where are his other victims? What states?

Here's the thing, Java:

William Gidney never was anybody. Not with Ygraine, and not without her. Not
with a title, not without one. He was what should've run down his mother's leg.
He was always, in your words, a "spineless piece of human flesh just waiting to
wither and die." Anton LaVey apparently knew this. Everyone with eyes to see
knew this. But he was still made A PRIEST, now wasn't he? And now that the
damage is done, everyone is playing a role: the gossips, the back-pedallers,
the CoS-right-or-wrong people...(in my day that was called "cheerleading."
Shall we have a try?)

Now everyone who praised him is caught with their tongues tied and their faces
covered in mud.

Reality will have to be faced: William Gidney is a baby rapist, among other
things. The honorable thing for him to do is to kill himself, but Gidney hasn't
a shred of honor and never has. He has not only soiled himself as a former
soldier, he and those who bestowed the title upon him, have soiled the
Priesthood. None of his little Church of Satan friends are there to help him
now....but he was never the one with the money anyway: he was just part of the
deal.

The bed has been made, the stage has been set.

Already I see martyrdom on the horizon: I can hear it already: "It was my
fault, not the Church's...." How very noble. Do Satanists have Saints?

What other legal issues will worm their way out of the Church of Satan's Closet
now that the doors have been thrown open?

Time will tell...

And look on the bright side...when William and the rest are dead...

They'll all know what Hell is really like.
- wolf -
2003-07-30 04:47:14 UTC
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"Angelus Ultrix" <***@aol.com> wrote in message news:***@mb-m16.aol.com...

(Most of it snipped.)

Your post echoes my reflections on the matter perfectly. Thanks for putting
it into words.
Post by Angelus Ultrix
Now everyone who praised him is caught with their tongues tied and their faces
covered in mud.
And they should be reminded of that. It is amazing how great and unfailing
William Gidney was until very recently. He was the perfect Satanist, who was
made a priest in the Church of Satan by Peter Gilmore, if one was to believe
the Church of Satan people posting here. And now that he was caught, he "was
never really important." This seems to be the statement whenever someone is
thrown out.

- wolf -
Lupo LeBoucher
2003-07-30 21:26:19 UTC
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Wolf thought he was the "perfect Satanist" too but he couldn't cut the
mustard either.
I'm not in prison, dear. I was thrown out for openly opposing people like,
you guessed it, William Gidney.
But let's indeed make statistics about the people whose opinions I've
criticized. Nagy has left the Church of Satan, John Davis shot himself,
Blanche has stepped down, and William Gidney is in jail.
And none of the "people you liked" are on civil terms with you any longer.

Funny how that works.

-Lupo
"Satan is the king of the world and he drives a big fucking Buick" <***@io.com>
People's Commissar
2003-07-31 06:16:36 UTC
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MUhahaha, do you always base your judgements on what you can see on usenet?

It figures.
Post by Lupo LeBoucher
Wolf thought he was the "perfect Satanist" too but he couldn't cut the
mustard either.
I'm not in prison, dear. I was thrown out for openly opposing people like,
you guessed it, William Gidney.
But let's indeed make statistics about the people whose opinions I've
criticized. Nagy has left the Church of Satan, John Davis shot himself,
Blanche has stepped down, and William Gidney is in jail.
And none of the "people you liked" are on civil terms with you any longer.
Funny how that works.
-Lupo
- wolf -
2003-07-31 14:37:11 UTC
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Post by Lupo LeBoucher
I'm not in prison, dear. I was thrown out for openly opposing people like,
you guessed it, William Gidney.
But let's indeed make statistics about the people whose opinions I've
criticized. Nagy has left the Church of Satan, John Davis shot himself,
Blanche has stepped down, and William Gidney is in jail.
And none of the "people you liked" are on civil terms with you any longer.
Those people would be confined to maybe Vad, on this newsgroup.

- wolf -
Cat Asstrophy
2003-07-30 18:42:31 UTC
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Post by Angelus Ultrix
....but he was never the one with the money anyway: he was just part of the
deal.
Angelus:

The point of "Legal Eagle's" original post was that Ygraine HAS no money - or if she does, she lied to the Federal Bankruptcy court.

Maybe some of you missed this, not being familiar with legal matters:

---------START COURT RECORD ----------------

U.S. Bankruptcy Court
Southern District of Florida (Palm Beach)

Bankruptcy Petition #: 01-30605 Date filed: 2/12/01 Date terminated: 2/27/02
Assigned to: Judge Steven H. Friedman
Chapter 7, voluntary, individual, no assets <========== !!!!!!!!!

* Debtor *
GABRIELLE GIDNEY
dba
Pandora's Box
1826 SE Aneci St
Port St. Lucie, FL 34983
SSN: 087-54-4199
Kevin Filan
2003-07-31 00:56:30 UTC
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On 7/30/03 2:42 PM, in article
Post by Cat Asstrophy
The point of "Legal Eagle's" original post was that Ygraine HAS no money - or
if she does, she lied to the Federal Bankruptcy court.
---------START COURT RECORD ----------------
U.S. Bankruptcy Court
Southern District of Florida (Palm Beach)
Bankruptcy Petition #: 01-30605 Date filed: 2/12/01 Date terminated: 2/27/02
Assigned to: Judge Steven H. Friedman
Chapter 7, voluntary, individual, no assets <========== !!!!!!!!!
Actually, what that means is that the individual in question has no assets
*which can be reached by the bankruptcy court* -- not that the individual
has no assets at all. O.J. Simpson currently pulls in a little over $200k a
year from his NFL pension: although there is a $30m judgment outstanding
against him, his pension cannot be garnished. Since a trust fund is not in
an individual's name (obviously) but rather is controlled by a trust, it
might well be outside the reach of a bankruptcy court... particularly in
Florida, a state which is well known to be more favorable to debtors than
creditors.

I know a little bit about this topic: I worked as a paralegal for several
years, and handled many Chapter 7 filings. Sorry to disturb anyone's
gloating with facts, but that one was just a bit too blatant to pass up.

Peace
Kevin Filan
Cat Asstrophy
2003-07-31 01:38:58 UTC
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Thank you for your clarification.
Post by Kevin Filan
On 7/30/03 2:42 PM, in article
Post by Cat Asstrophy
The point of "Legal Eagle's" original post was that Ygraine HAS no money - or
if she does, she lied to the Federal Bankruptcy court.
---------START COURT RECORD ----------------
U.S. Bankruptcy Court
Southern District of Florida (Palm Beach)
Bankruptcy Petition #: 01-30605 Date filed: 2/12/01 Date terminated: 2/27/02
Assigned to: Judge Steven H. Friedman
Chapter 7, voluntary, individual, no assets <========== !!!!!!!!!
Actually, what that means is that the individual in question has no assets
*which can be reached by the bankruptcy court* -- not that the individual
has no assets at all. O.J. Simpson currently pulls in a little over $200k a
year from his NFL pension: although there is a $30m judgment outstanding
against him, his pension cannot be garnished. Since a trust fund is not in
an individual's name (obviously) but rather is controlled by a trust, it
might well be outside the reach of a bankruptcy court... particularly in
Florida, a state which is well known to be more favorable to debtors than
creditors.
I know a little bit about this topic: I worked as a paralegal for several
years, and handled many Chapter 7 filings. Sorry to disturb anyone's
gloating with facts, but that one was just a bit too blatant to pass up.
Peace
Kevin Filan
StiffyLube
2003-08-02 03:29:02 UTC
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How convenient for Ygraine, that "trust" fund.



Interesting, that you are putting Mrs Gidney in the same category as a man
we all know "got away with murder". OJ, a known wife beater, Ygraine, a
known beaten wife. How clever of you to make that simple connection. I
think you really put her up on that "NFL Pedestal" with OJ.



As to trust funds, they are "normally" reserved for minors, or maybe up to
age 25. Only VERY wealthy "kids" such as Lisa Marie Presley, or VERY
financially irresponsible "kids" don't get control of their trust funds at a
specified age. (There are lots of those out there, to be sure.)



How old is Ygraine now?



The people who set up the trust fund for her, must have been VERY well aware
of her lack of financial responsibility and/or her tendency to attach
herself to men who wanted her money (and maybe her children). She's so
lucky, that she can start all these little business that she used to boast
about so much, and then never pay her creditors - because all of her money
is "protected" in a trust fund. And then she boasts about how rich she is,
how she has a manicure and a massage every week, and how her children lack
for nothing. Something is wrong with this picture, and with the "system",
but we all know that already.



And, last I heard, the CoS considered "Success in the real world" to be an
indicator of ones stature and position in the CoS. I suppose that being
completely financially irresponsible, and screwing your creditors (although
you have money to pay them) is considered SUCCESS by the CoS. Oh, I forgot.
HP Gilmore declared bankruptcy, so, I guess it's an OK thing to do. Success
in the real world? Riiiiiiiight! Go bankrupt when you have a secure trust
fund, get made a CoS Priestess. Way to go, Ygraine.



And I seem to remember a time, not too many years ago, Mr Filan, when YOU
were flaming the hell out of both of the Gidneys. What happened? Next
thing we know, you are making cute little web sites for "Pandora's Box".
How much did she pay you, or were you listed as a creditor when she bellied
up? Must look great on the taxes, doesn't it, that "loss"?



Oh, and this little part sure looks like an attachment of wages to me, but
then you are the expert, right?
4/6/01 13 Agreed Order (04/05/01) to Employer to Deduct and Remit and for
Related Matters. (re) [EOD 04/06/01]
So Mrs Gidney actually had to WORK for a while? Poor little rich girl who
spewed out too many brats.
4/30/01 18 Certificate Of Service By Colin V Lloyd for Debtor Gabrielle
Gidney Of [13-1] Wage Deduction Order . (re) [EOD 04/30/01]
And then we have her poor bank, objecting to getting shafted without so much
3/12/01 9 Objection By Creditor Provident Bank To Confirmation Of Plan.
(vc) [EOD 03/13/01]
Oh, and then Mrs Gidney, who appears to have had a job, cannot even meet her
10/11/01 19 Trustee's Notice of Delinquency in Confirmed Ch. 13 Plan
Payments. (kk) [EOD 10/11/01]
11/28/01 20 Report of Non-Compliance by Trustee Robin R Weiner. (dal) [EOD
11/30/01]
And, let's not forget that Ygraine is SO irresponsible that she failed to
show up for her creditor's meeting. I mean, how lame can you get?
2/8/02 35 Ex-Parte Motion By Trustee Patricia Dzikowski To Dismiss Case
For
Failure of The Debtor's To Appear at The 341 Meeting of Creditors. (re)
[EOD
02/08/02]
2/11/02 36 Order (02/11/02) Dismissing Case With Prejudice for a period of
180 days from filing any Bankruptcy Case for failure to attend the 341
meeting of creditors. (re) [EOD 02/11/02]
Now, do you want to keep defending this totally untalented "business" woman,
or perhaps you will just agree that she's irresponsible, and let it go at
that?



Maybe, since you "worked as a paralegal" you have a different interpretation
on the details than those of us uneducated lay people can comprehend. If
so, please continue with your defense, Mr Filan. We are awaiting your
credible response.




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On 7/30/03 2:42 PM, in article
Post by Cat Asstrophy
The point of "Legal Eagle's" original post was that Ygraine HAS no money - or
if she does, she lied to the Federal Bankruptcy court.
---------START COURT RECORD ----------------
U.S. Bankruptcy Court
Southern District of Florida (Palm Beach)
Bankruptcy Petition #: 01-30605 Date filed: 2/12/01 Date terminated: 2/27/02
Assigned to: Judge Steven H. Friedman
Chapter 7, voluntary, individual, no assets <========== !!!!!!!!!
Actually, what that means is that the individual in question has no assets
*which can be reached by the bankruptcy court* -- not that the individual
has no assets at all. O.J. Simpson currently pulls in a little over $200k a
year from his NFL pension: although there is a $30m judgment outstanding
against him, his pension cannot be garnished. Since a trust fund is not in
an individual's name (obviously) but rather is controlled by a trust, it
might well be outside the reach of a bankruptcy court... particularly in
Florida, a state which is well known to be more favorable to debtors than
creditors.
I know a little bit about this topic: I worked as a paralegal for several
years, and handled many Chapter 7 filings. Sorry to disturb anyone's
gloating with facts, but that one was just a bit too blatant to pass up.
Peace
Kevin Filan
Angelus Ultrix
2003-07-30 04:19:45 UTC
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But...Ronnie...

It wasn't long ago that you were advocating sex between children and adults
also...You remember...The Watcher? Your interview with Bob Larson? Shall I make
those things available to the public or is my sending it to the Baltimore Field
Office of the FBI enough for you?

Hope you enjoy your chat with them. And remember, it's very easy to extract
information from even burned hard drives. Computer Forensics Techies are a
bright lot...

So if I were you, I'd pull the plank from my eye before examining the splinter
in someone elses...

Because if you don't, Ronnie...

I will.
Ron Mershon
2003-07-31 02:35:07 UTC
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Post by Angelus Ultrix
It wasn't long ago that you were advocating sex between children and adults
also...You remember...The Watcher? Your interview with Bob Larson?
_The Watcher_ once included my parody of Joe Aufricht's "personal
ads", and I once chatted with Bob Larson (during one of my many
appearances as a guest on his radio program) about Age of Consent laws
(which I fully support and have never attempted to break). Only a true
idiot could misconstrue these things as "advocating sex between
children and adults".
Post by Angelus Ultrix
So if I were you, I'd pull the plank from my eye before examining the splinter
in someone elses...
Thank you, Jesus! Last I checked, "CoS Priest" Bill Gidney was the one
in jail, not me.

RM

http://orderofshaitan.zapto.org
Lisa
2003-07-30 05:44:54 UTC
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<<I believe NOTHING that you say. You said you closed Pandora's Box not for
lack of business or money but because you had enough private clients to support
you. >>

Who the Hell cares about this?! Do we all here on Usenet take holy (or unholy)
vows to tell the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth, especially
about business matters? If so, there's a whole lot of people in trouble here;
you can start with "John Shaw". If you want to go after some business whoppers,
there's the place. Then you might progress to Ron Mershon - another one not
without business-related legal woes. But does anyone care?

Does your anonymous opinion matter to one person here? Does even one person
give a damn that you're upset Ygraine didn't bare her soul and her tax returns
on this stupid n.g.? Who are you to be upset, anyways - the Attorney General? I
sincerely doubt it.

<<Obviously, you are a liar in all accounts, either to this newsgroup OR the
Federal Bankruptcy Court:>>

You can pontificate on financial matters when you finally muster the nerve, not
to mention the cash, to move out of your parent's house. Until then, you really
don't matter.

You might not matter even then: you see, you're too cowardly to sign your name,
and so that pretty much removes you from the field of those taken seriously out
here. I see your email address is an apt moniker, indeed.
Cat Asstrophy
2003-07-30 18:46:33 UTC
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Post by Lisa
Who the Hell cares about this?!
Obviously, you do, or your would not have responded to it.
Post by Lisa
Does your anonymous opinion matter to one person here
Obviously, it matters to you, or you would not have responded to it.
Post by Lisa
You can pontificate on financial matters when you finally muster the nerve, not
to mention the cash, to move out of your parent's house.
LOL LOL LOL

This is too funny. If you knew who "Legal Eagle" is, you'd know that what
you just spewed out is shit on your face.

Thanks for making my day begin with a hearty laugh.

You are such a fool, Lisa.

Cat
Little Orphan Anomy
2003-07-31 03:42:13 UTC
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Funny, for all the Co$'s lauding of streetsmarts, they don't seem to
have any. Perhaps they learned it all from books and theorizing as
opposed to active application, who knows? Oh well seems that the
chickens have come home to roost. Couldn't have happened to a nicer
org. *tsk*
People's Commissar
2003-07-30 20:53:40 UTC
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And that says what about Ygraine's judgement and intuition? You
flamed her alright - you said it more to the point than I did when I
said she shouldn't give anyone advice about anything.
Your email address explains exactly what and who you are.. shit!
Who worked her ass off to support Billy's lazy ass? Ygraine
Who was the MASTERMIND behind EVERYTHING Will ever tried to accomplish? Ygraine
Who put up with his incompetent ass in support of her family, despite Billy's
lack of support and manhood? Ygraine
Who was Will's backbone? Ygraine
Were is Billy now? In jail. He is there for a reason, they do not put you in
jail with a substantial bond amount on just pure suspicion!
Ygraine's family, Ygraine's house, Ygraine's cars, Ygraine's business,
Ygraine's money and Ygraine's life has been ruined due to your pathetic little
Billy, who is by now, someone's piece of ass!
This just shows how small you and people like you are to even consider
questioning Ygraine and the authorities! It is pathetic to think one would
resort to past legal issues that concern no one but Ygraine.
Will is nothing and no one without Ygraine there to support him.
Without a backbone for support there is only a spineless piece of useless flesh
just waiting to wither and die.
Lisa
2003-08-03 05:58:47 UTC
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<<Someone like you, Mershon, who has went on the record regarding your
preference for very young girls, would do well to eschew such remarks; they do
not sit well when your history in such matters is taken into account.>>

<<Careful; the "Satanic Cassanova" might use his Ninja Death Seekrets on you.>>

One can but hope! I love it when people go out of their way to entertain me -
I'm only upset "EvilJenn" did not see fit to send any "screaming demons!!!"
over this way during her recent curse-a-thon.

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